Comments on: Review: Twilight http://didyouhavejuice.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/test/ Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:27:33 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: W.E.B. Adamant http://didyouhavejuice.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/test/#comment-268 W.E.B. Adamant Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:57:17 +0000 http://didyouhavejuice.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/test/#comment-268 Glad to provoke! I won't ruin the second book for you, but it at least improves on some of the issues here. I haven't read the third or the fourth yet, but here's to hoping! I'm also glad I got to see your blog. I hope to come back again soon! Glad to provoke! I won’t ruin the second book for you, but it at least improves on some of the issues here. I haven’t read the third or the fourth yet, but here’s to hoping!

I’m also glad I got to see your blog. I hope to come back again soon!

]]> By: K8 http://didyouhavejuice.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/test/#comment-264 K8 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:45:13 +0000 http://didyouhavejuice.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/test/#comment-264 <a href="http://adamanthenes.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">W.E.B.</a>: That's a fascinating point, and one I hadn't considered. The term "erasure" describes my sense of unease with Bella's character treatment. It's a bit of a throwback to the 1970s-era romance novel trends, where victimization and helplessness was en vogue. Of course, that's also a reflection of that whole "what 16-year-old girls think is romantic" issue; at that age, many girls daydream about "white knights" rescuing them from dire situations, and this is just a variation on that theme. The possible racial/cultural assimilation metaphor is intriguing. I wonder how it evolves in the later books? I've loaned my copy of the second book out before reading it myself, so I can't comment on that yet. Thanks for the thought-provoker! W.E.B.:

That’s a fascinating point, and one I hadn’t considered. The term “erasure” describes my sense of unease with Bella’s character treatment. It’s a bit of a throwback to the 1970s-era romance novel trends, where victimization and helplessness was en vogue. Of course, that’s also a reflection of that whole “what 16-year-old girls think is romantic” issue; at that age, many girls daydream about “white knights” rescuing them from dire situations, and this is just a variation on that theme.

The possible racial/cultural assimilation metaphor is intriguing. I wonder how it evolves in the later books? I’ve loaned my copy of the second book out before reading it myself, so I can’t comment on that yet.

Thanks for the thought-provoker!

]]> By: W.E.B. Adamant http://didyouhavejuice.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/test/#comment-263 W.E.B. Adamant Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:51:58 +0000 http://didyouhavejuice.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/test/#comment-263 I reviewed the book myself, and I agree with a lot of what you've said. But I also want to ask, what do you think of Bella's "erasure", as one reviewer put it" from the plot? She becomes a ghost-like entity in the novel, and feels utterly empty without Edward. As <a href="http://adsoofmelk.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/earning-the-wrath-of-teenage-girls-everywhere/" rel="nofollow">adsoofmelk</a> said, "Were this presented honestly or literally as a case of a teenager who’s attracted to a violent stalker and wants to become one of his victims, or were Bella a woman from a different race who wanted to give up her essential self in order to assume a white identity (very white, in this case), many people would justly be outraged. Peel off the vampire overlay, and what you have is misogyny." That's harsh criticism, but it rings very true. What do you think? I reviewed the book myself, and I agree with a lot of what you’ve said. But I also want to ask, what do you think of Bella’s “erasure”, as one reviewer put it” from the plot? She becomes a ghost-like entity in the novel, and feels utterly empty without Edward. As adsoofmelk said, “Were this presented honestly or literally as a case of a teenager who’s attracted to a violent stalker and wants to become one of his victims, or were Bella a woman from a different race who wanted to give up her essential self in order to assume a white identity (very white, in this case), many people would justly be outraged. Peel off the vampire overlay, and what you have is misogyny.”

That’s harsh criticism, but it rings very true. What do you think?

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